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Old 7th July 2020, 05:10 PM
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Definitely not what had in mind...






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AMG inlet manifold??

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Still batting on with the manifold, with lots of hurdles & some compromises in the way. I managed to complete some updated calculations to accomodate additional mods, but it fortunately didnít change dimensions significantly.

And Iíve also come up with a Stage 3 manifold, which will be the most extreme version & will most likely need a bonnet bulge
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The project continues despite ISO delays!!



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I’ll be trying some acetone to clean off the carbon deposits, so hopefully the full set will look a bit better soon..
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Old 12th October 2020, 10:24 AM
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Updates on the project:

Having difficulty sourcing alloy plate for the main flanges due to COVID restrictions! I have to fix my pedestal drill to drill them on an angle & buy a die grinder for finishing.

Injectors & rails selected & funds ready to purchase!

I found a higher res pic of the AMG ITB M117 engine and it turns out to be just a 5.0L!!! 338kW NA is EXCELLENT!

Oh and another pic shows a 6.0L with a more std intake. Torque was closing in on the M100.





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Old 26th October 2020, 06:14 PM
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For the sake of completeness Iíll add the 580-600hp CanAm M117 & the failed attempt using the AMG 6.8 with modified tunnel rams. Interesting that it was apparently 200hp down compared to other engines. Iíd suggest internal restrictions didnít help.







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Old 26th October 2020, 06:18 PM
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The best news I’ve had all year is restricted Melbourne retail opens up tomorrow & the Metro/regional border will allow through traffic (within 25km from home) on 8th Nov, which is when I start leave for 2 weeks!!
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Old 29th October 2020, 09:26 PM
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Link to another one of my posts about the air filter assemblies. Probably what started me thinking I can do this better...

http://www.topklasse.net.au/forums/s...ght=Air+filter
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Hereís a very short video of a repro 6.8 complete with the twin throttle intake! Close to complete 2 years ago so Iíll try to find a video of it running!

https://youtu.be/yFxfyqib4GU
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All the videos I’ve heard have the Red Pig emanating a terrible soundtrack & it actually sounds like mechanical injection! It definitely does not give the impression of power or an efficient performance engine. I think they got various aspects quite wrong...

https://youtu.be/rYgELlTJF-g
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Under the bonnet of the original AMG 450SLC racing car revealing parts of the intake setup.

Spoke to my fabricator yesterday who will be CNC machining the base plates once I source the materials. I will be doing more of the rest myself since he’s flat out until June 2021!!!

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I just managed to get a far better screenshot from one of the AMG 450SLC YouTube vids.... Seems AMG were convinced twin throttles and plenums were the way to go.

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Weber anyone?? A 450SLC in Asia of all places! It appears to be an AMG replica (incorrectly sporting post merger stickers), but a nice attempt regardless!

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