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Old 7th February 2019, 09:00 AM
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The World moves on... I read that the currant Car sold with a Holden Badge the ZB has the lowest resale of any Car sold in this Country. The die hards will have to get used to FWD. And that, while it is currently a rebadged Opel , in the near future it will be a rebadged PSA design. The other G.M offering made in Poland? what then for it ?
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Old 7th February 2019, 10:10 AM
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The World moves on... I read that the currant Car sold with a Holden Badge the ZB has the lowest resale of any Car sold in this Country. The die hards will have to get used to FWD. And that, while it is currently a rebadged Opel , in the near future it will be a rebadged PSA design. The other G.M offering made in Poland? what then for it ?
Must be shocking depreciation if it is worse than chinese brands like great wall, and even the high end euro luxury barges like the BMW 7 series and so on.
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Old 7th February 2019, 12:07 PM
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Currently a few dealer demonstrator's in base LT guise listed for under $24000 . Interestingly the base 2 litre petrol turbo does a 14.7 0-400 in wheels road test in Calais spec so LT is most likely 1or 2 tenths quicker .
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This is what I meant by price being low 2018 ZB Commodore LT $23990 with 11000km and a few more around this price https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...AG-AD-16716806
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Old 7th February 2019, 09:14 PM
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I drove a brand new Opel Insignia (Commodore here) between Paris and Amsterdam last November.
It was a really nice car to drive, so many safety features, could even drive it without holding the wheel.
Itís cruise control actually read the speed signs, so when a small town local limit dropped to 40kmh for road works, it even dropped and held that speed, autonomous braking was awesome.
But we get the dumbed down version, and they called it a Commodore.

Should have left the original name, and let the Commodore badge RIP.

Maybe, people wouldnít be so disappointed.
The car is a good bit of gear.

Well until the Opel engine warning lights appear in a few years
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5 year warranty so at least 5 years out of the car. And yes badge should have been put to rest.
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Old 8th February 2019, 07:52 AM
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The dealer would have at least a $5000 markup on the Commodore bring the true price down to $19000 in just one year and with only a nominal Mileage. With a few bells and whistles fitted it gets close to a 50% depreciation in just one year !
After 5 years and out of Warranty ???? By then a orphan as Commodores will be a PSA. Opel/ G.M. is gone as of last year.
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As long as you are willing to accept that its worth nothing after 5 years or almost nothing then it might be an acceptable car. It's not the first orphan Holden have sold RB Gemini Piazza and a few others that only lasted for 1 model. And ZB will be the same as once contracts up on this model GM will not continue buying a car from what is now a competitor.
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Motec, a very long long list of those one off failures mate.
Holden Epica comes to mind, and of late the Holden Cascada.
Which is a shame as I always saw hot chicks driving them
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Yes it would appear the only 2 vehicles they have that are selling is Colorado and new Acadia which is a GMC . Which I had a lift in 1 the other week was better than I was expecting. Been told demand on Acadia is better than expected so orders are more than Holden ordered from US .
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Yes, thatís not a bad looking jigger, and itís big!

The Equinox saggy rump looks like it was designed by Salvador Dali.
It wonít last long either.

Now here is another 1 hit wonder.
Holden Calibra.
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Sister had Piazza Turbo
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I donít think any of them were particularly bad cars, just that no one wanted/bought them much.
Piazza was a pretty quick little car.
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Yes it is like values... the value of anything is what someone will pay for it.
What we may value it at is of no consequence.
I have a very well restored 1974 Spanish Montesa Trail/ trails 247 cc Bike for sale at much less than restoration cost ... Nobody wants it ..therefor the value is zero. Or else just something nice to look at in my Shed.
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Latest is the possibility that GM will sell Holden to Inchcape . And the possibility Holden as a brand will cease to exist and Opel takes its place as GM is showing interest in ceasing all RHD production https://www.carsales.com.au/editoria...-holden-116884
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