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Old 31st January 2012, 03:59 AM
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Default Wanted: rear suspension blocks for 6.9

Hello everyone,

First let me say, this is a great site and I am sorry to say I don't visit (or post) enough.

I am looking for just the rear suspension blocks for the 6.9 emergency hydropneumatic system failure.

I understand these can be purchased new and that most members here are in OZ, but I am simply beating the bushes for a deal on the seconday market.

Thank you in advance.
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Old 31st January 2012, 04:06 AM
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Default Re: Wanted: rear suspension blocks for 6.9

Hey MIKE , you got that right ,it is the best place for the w116 specially 6.9 but unforutnatly it is down under and thae AUSSIE keep most of them , i'm sure they can help you.if it is far then TRY IRVINE CALI

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Old 1st February 2012, 01:48 AM
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Default Re: Wanted: rear suspension blocks for 6.9

Hi MB-Mike, good luck with your search. You'd probably know that it will not be easy to find them. As far as I can recall, Gleaming Beauty is the only one that has all four suspension blocks. Either previous owners have lost them or thrown them out, never to be found again. Best of luck. Regards Styria
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Old 2nd February 2012, 06:53 AM
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Default Re: Wanted: rear suspension blocks for 6.9

Thanks for the well-wishes.

Here in the U.S. there is a celebrity spoke person on television who tugs at your emotions and wallet by showing pictures of starving children so that you will make a donation to their cause.

Here I am doing the same...Please do help this poor pathetic HPF equipped Mercedes by digging deep into your sheds and selling me a set of rear suspension emergency blocks.
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Old 2nd February 2012, 10:23 AM
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Default Re: Wanted: rear suspension blocks for 6.9

LOL Nice try, Does anyone have a picture of the alleged emergency blocks?
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Old 2nd February 2012, 10:32 AM
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Default Re: Wanted: rear suspension blocks for 6.9

That sounds like you purchased the front set that were for sale.

If that is so - I resisted as half a set were not a lot of use.

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Old 2nd February 2012, 12:30 PM
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Default Re: Wanted: rear suspension blocks for 6.9

Mike: I made an effort to locate some suspension blocks some years ago, without success. I did find a pair available on the West Coast but the cost I thought was too high for their probable use.

Not to worry. I started thinking 'outside the square'.

It is possible to get them made for a lot less cost (than old originals) from new rubber, which may be of a distinct advantage.

A couple of things for consideration:
1. You need a pattern off a borrowed original. A lost wax type of pattern should be OK for the purpose.

2. You need to find someone who will make them for you. That should not be too hard. There are should be a few companies in your City that are capable of this. Any of them that make custom engine mounts for vehicles that are re engined are also capable of making suspension blocks for a 6.9.

I have seen a large petrol GM V8 for instance, installed in a Toyota Landcruiser.

3. You need to know the durability resistance of the rubber. If you don't, the manufacturer of the engine blocks should be able to give you good approximate advice, anyway.

4. There is a simple piece of metal cast into a pair of the blocks, but I don't know if they are for the front or rear. That should not be too much of worry, and that should be quite easy to get it fabricated.

It may pay you well to make a few inquiries in this regard.


Having said all of this, I have never heard of any 6.9 owner being forced to install these blocks 'on the road'. Most comments I have heard are that they a real pain in the proverbial to install.

The only real reason I suspect that they were made at all, is that MB installed them prior to leaving Sindelfingen, because the suspension would go down slowly during the time the car left the factory and delivey to the customer.

MB in their wisdom saw that they may be useful in an emergency.
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Old 2nd February 2012, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: Wanted: rear suspension blocks for 6.9

Original blocks are very hard to find and are probably far too hard to be useful now anyway (I don't have any, despite looking for a while). Driving the car with hard-as-a-rock blocks would be almost as bad as failed gas cells and could result in a cracked chassis (ouch)!!!

For the price vs the number of times they'll get used, I'd just ensure you have roadside assistance cover for towing. Unless you're looking for something unusual to put in the display case in the pool room!!!
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Old 2nd February 2012, 01:25 PM
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Default Re: Wanted: rear suspension blocks for 6.9

They are not really for driving the car but for transporting.

The suspension will settle with constant movement and will settle on a truck or train if left unblocked - at the moment my car does not settle at all after 2 weeks parking but it will if jiggled about on transport.

Also tilt trays can have trouble with loading the car if the front is too low.

I have been on the look for a set in case I put my car on the train and transport it over to you guys for an M-100 meet or otherwise but somehow something else always interferes with the budget and I have no use for them on a month by month basis.

There are sets in WA and I have had the offer of a lend to manufacture a set but again they are not that needed.

For temporary use in transport some wooden blocks will do an adequate job.

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Old 2nd February 2012, 03:37 PM
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Default Re: Wanted: rear suspension blocks for 6.9

I agree with Bill with all of what he says here.
The entry and departure angles of a 6.9 down on it's luck are just too narrow to allow it to be dragged onto a tilt tray truck.

However you don't necessariily need suspension blocks for this exercise. Simple wooden blocks are sufficient if you just want to move a 6.9, 50 feet or less.

I have seen a 6.9 with a downed suspension driven across a gutter at an angle.
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Old 2nd February 2012, 11:07 PM
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Default Re: Wanted: rear suspension blocks for 6.9

A lot of what has been said here is interesting and very true.

It would make sense that they were more of a transport from the factory piece. That would also indicate why not very many people have them; perhaps they were tossed at the dealer along with extensive detailing that removed the wax coating from the engine bay ect.

I realize the lack of usefulness (I really needed them when I had the car transported from the West coast to NY) but as Oversize said, I would like them more for display purposes. My car isn't a 6.9 but a 560 SEL with the HPF suspension. In an effort to create a "baby book" for my car, I have been tracking down lots of little detail items.

WGB, I'm not sure about which half set you are referring to, but maybe you mean the front set on Ebay here in the states? If yes, then yes

They aren't particularly useful without the full set but also, only my front settles during extended periods of non-use. And knowing I can buy the rears new, it wasn't that bad of a deal.
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Old 3rd February 2012, 11:09 AM
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Default Re: Wanted: rear suspension blocks for 6.9

I knew that the hydraulic suspension was an option in the w126 series, and (I think) that is was an option for the top line model, i.e. the 560 SEL only.

Which brings me to a question:
Are 6.9 blocks of the pattern and shape as for the 560 SEL?
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Old 3rd February 2012, 11:42 AM
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Default Re: Wanted: rear suspension blocks for 6.9

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I knew that the hydraulic suspension was an option in the w126 series, and (I think) that is was an option for the top line model, i.e. the 560 SEL only.

Which brings me to a question:
Are 6.9 blocks of the pattern and shape as for the 560 SEL?
The same suspension could be found on the 420, 500 and 560. They system was just about identical except for post 1985 when they added an electronic component allowing the push of a button to stiffen the ride for a sport mode.

According to the EPC the part numbers are the same for the blocks.
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Old 3rd February 2012, 01:23 PM
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I wondered if the 4 wheel SLS was interchangable between 6.9 & 560SEL, but the front lower control arms are quite different. Perhaps the uppers are so similar that the blocks can be used?

Judging by the 560 manual it's almost like the 6.9 high position was the 560 normal position. It seems the 560 SLS low position (6.9 normal position?) was speed dependant. However the two mode 'shock absorbers' baffle me and I wonder how the two settings are achieved....

MB Mike can you post some pics of the components in your system?
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Old 4th February 2012, 12:07 AM
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MB Mike can you post some pics of the components in your system?
Happy to. If I am getting too far OT please let me know. I am a guest in your home Styria.

In the first picture it shows that the 126 uses a different combination of accumulators. 4 green and 1 red.

The next picture illustrates the slight difference in hydraulic ram (strut) and that there is an extra line to assist with the auto dampening.

Next we have the layout of the system from the "Advantages" dealer brochure.

And lastly the "brain" of the system. The electronic device that controls the dampening.

The only other difference between this system and the 6.9/early 126 HPF is a valve on the arm of the leveling control block (front/rear) that extends the arm to automatically raise and lower within the tolerence of the sport-mode.
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