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Old 26th March 2012, 03:55 PM
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Shouldn't think so, perhaps 21's with liquorice straps would knock em about a bit harder but I cant see it making a huge difference as they are purely used for damping rate as far as I know.
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Air freight?

Nitrogen gas in the cells can expand in sub zero temps and high altitudes and there is a risk of explosion.

Perfectly understandable even if it is a pain in the backside.
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Anyone got a tinny and some oars???

Styria YES please.... PM if necessary!
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Mark, I've never replied to your query regarding the colour of the suspension pipes. I have reason to believe that they were powdercoated in a sort of olive green colour. It reminds me of ROVER (cars) in the sixties - all bolts were a slight olive green in colour as well. Regards Styria
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Coated pipes look nice and I'll look into that further after the more important stuff is complete. I'll certainly be looking at something more durable than the original coating, because there's almost not trace of it left.
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Styria any luck sourcing good cells??
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My apologies Mark, I will ring the States tomorrow morning. It's not always possible to get hold of the people immediately, but I will try. Regards Styria
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I have found this old picture from three years ago which show the three different spheres on my 6.9.

The OEM red spot sphere is in the central sphere position - the rear has two Lemfoerder blue spots and the front has two red spot Febi's.



The left one is an OEM one with M-B markings and weighs 2.5 kg. It is physically a little larger than the other two.

The middle one is one I took from the rear and is identical to the Lemfoerder that replaced it so I would think it is a Lemfoerder - it is noticeably smaller in dimensions and has a cut-out bracket in lighter gauge steel and this particular sphere is probably a bit short on Nitrogen Gas - it weighs 1.5kg. It almost looks like new and could easily pass for a near new second hand sale but on the car it was SNAFU.

The one on the right is a Febi - it has no red marking but the box has the same part number as the OEM red spot one. It is superficially similar to the OEM one but is again slightly smaller than the OEM and weighs 2 Kg.

I guess we will see which brand fails first with the passing of time.

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Judging by this post it seems the Febis are better?? But later posts suggest they don't last long.... I'd still tend to go for the Febis, as they appear much studier than the Lems.
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No Mark, as Bill points out, the middle unit being a rear one, is smaller than the front units. It is a long time since I weighed any units, but from memory Lemfoerders are the sturdiest and probably made by that company for Daimler Benz. I have finally been able to connect with the supplier in the States, and he has indicated that not only will he try and locate some, but also suggested that they are quite difficult to come by. When I bought the last lot, they took about a fortnight.

Now, regarding shelf life. Unless there is a date stamped on the cell itself, there is no way of telling how long they've been on the shelf for. That could apply to any of them, including the ones stocked by Daimler. Yet, one should check out their pricing - it is substantial. I will contact you as soon as I have further news. Regards Styria
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Does anyone have the parts book to list the part numbers of the SLS Spheres and their application?

I believe that the last time I got a price on them for my Wagon it had a 140 prefix instead of a 123 or 124 so obviously there is some cross over in models.

Their construct is basic enough to (I suspect) use the relative sizes and line entry points as a fair basis for compatibility and I cant really see any major difference internally other than perhaps the nitrogen charge although id suspect this would be unlikely.

When I do my Wagon (AGAIN!) im going to section the defective pod at the joints and have a look at the way they are built and how the diaphragm is fitted as it surely cant be THAT hard to repair......

Or alternatively if anyone has an electronic form of parts guide?
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Air freight?

Nitrogen gas in the cells can expand in sub zero temps and high altitudes and there is a risk of explosion.

Perfectly understandable even if it is a pain in the backside.
I don't get this explanation. Cold things normally shrink thereby reducing pressure. Aircraft normally pressurize at high altitude and I'm sure it'd be far lower than the hydraulic pressure applied when fitted to a car. Even if the aircraft de-pressurized during an emergency, the only thing that could fail (a very remote possibility), would be the diaphram. Nitrogen gas is non-toxic and non-flammable. Is it yet another case of the 'nanny' striking again??

How does heavy industry get around this issue of transporting accumulators on aircraft??? Surely they don't rely on surface transport??

Would these concerns 'ground' a Unimog from transportation in a C5, or C17?? In case anyone didn't realize it, the military carry real bombs!!!
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LOL Mark I didnt say I agreed with the BS they spout.....................

Which was why I paid nearly $180 each instead of $74 each but as always it is down to the post 9/11 hype and spin.

And yes their rational doesn't add up, the same as mobile phones and fuel.......
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BTW...... The wagon floats on fluid very nicely now.
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LOL Mark I didnt say I agreed with the BS they spout.....................

Which was why I paid nearly $180 each instead of $74 each but as always it is down to the post 9/11 hype and spin.

And yes their rational doesn't add up, the same as mobile phones and fuel.......
Hahahahahahaahaha! LOL!
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Honestly? They would be better off banning synthetic tracksuits at petrol pumps............
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