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Old 15th March 2016, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: Need help for w109 016 300sel/8 6cyl

Thank you Craig for your proposition about new pistons, can you tell us some more about its, are the chambers, rings, axles, comes with it.
Are they stock ?
any pics and price would be nice
Usually when needed we deal with Vossner in Germany, don't know yet if they got those ones.
let us know
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Old 15th March 2016, 09:06 PM
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They are a custom made, forged alloy piston. Here is a link. You can see the original one next to it.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n...ps450d622d.jpg

They fit all 3lt motors from 1952 to 1969 or so. Aside from the modern design, they are lighter by 30% and have a higher compression (adjustable). They are supplied with rings and pins.

Price is in the region of USD 2100 plus shipping. Less expensive than Mercedes pistons, rings and pins, but considerably better.
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Old 16th March 2016, 06:09 AM
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They are a custom made, forged alloy piston. Here is a link. You can see the original one next to it.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n...ps450d622d.jpg

They fit all 3lt motors from 1952 to 1969 or so. Aside from the modern design, they are lighter by 30% and have a higher compression (adjustable). They are supplied with rings and pins.

Price is in the region of USD 2100 plus shipping. Less expensive than Mercedes pistons, rings and pins, but considerably better.
Craig, beautiful workmanship on those Pistons. Tell me - from what I seem to recall, you did have some issues with that engine in your 300. Did you manage to address the problem ? BTW, I suspect that the car Igor in France is working on, is more than likely the M130 six cylinder 280 engine, rather than the "old" original M189 unit. Regards. Styria
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Old 17th March 2016, 05:51 AM
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Default Re: Need help for w109 016 300sel/8 6cyl

Hello,
We are lucky, the sun shines on the Benz every day since Sunday.
Tonight, all the Parts are boxed, any advice to get the block out of the car ?
Do i need to get the bonnet off the car to lift up and get it out ?
Does anyone knows if the injection pump is the good one (cause the seller has to change it, he gave us the old one that was originally mounted on the car)
Had some hard time getting the starter away to get some space to extricate the exhaust line in one part.

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Old 17th March 2016, 06:07 PM
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Default Re: Need help for w109 016 300sel/8 6cyl

Here are some pict of the parts removed:
tank & pump / air bags canisters & tank /alternator & starter / air filter box / wheels parts breaks / radiators / cooling hoses / water pump / starter hardness.
The water pump is seized in the housing, any suggestion to get it off ?
igor
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Old 17th March 2016, 06:29 PM
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Default Re: Need help for w109 016 300sel/8 6cyl

Some more parts:
injectors lines / intake manifold / headers / air valve control / anti freeze device / compressor / power steering tank / injection pump.
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Old 17th March 2016, 06:41 PM
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Default Re: Need help for w109 016 300sel/8 6cyl

Lets have a look under:
As you see this is completly free of rust, there is some spots that needs to be brushed and treated with some phosphate primer and touch-up
paint here and there. what a luck !!!
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1979 911 3.0l targa
1963 V.W type 34 1500cc coupe "razor hedge"
1979 V.W kombi "westfalia" 1600cc
1975 Citroen DS 23 ie Pallas
1979 Toyota L.C FJ55 "iron pig" 6cyl.
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Old 17th March 2016, 06:45 PM
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Craig, beautiful workmanship on those Pistons. Tell me - from what I seem to recall, you did have some issues with that engine in your 300. Did you manage to address the problem ? BTW, I suspect that the car Igor in France is working on, is more than likely the M130 six cylinder 280 engine, rather than the "old" original M189 unit. Regards. Styria
Waiting on RonB to have space in his workshop to pull it down. The noise is in the valve train. Bottom end is as solid as a rock.
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Old 17th March 2016, 07:15 PM
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The interior part seems ok, let's check that.
carpets and seats should be cleaned up carefully in the next days, will see how it goes.

That job took a big 60hrs time... and no dragging around at all if you see what i mean, but all came out in rule of Art, without breakages (very very lucky on that one)

Best regards from France

P.S: Olivier pop around yesterday to say hello, so happy having a Australian guy around... really glad to see him.

Igor
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1963 V.W type 34 1500cc coupe "razor hedge"
1979 V.W kombi "westfalia" 1600cc
1975 Citroen DS 23 ie Pallas
1979 Toyota L.C FJ55 "iron pig" 6cyl.
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Old 18th March 2016, 05:53 AM
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Default Re: Need help for w109 016 300sel/8 6cyl

As the car needs to move to a other storage place (in door) a custom made emergency suspension ply wood buffers for the rear side are being made we should try that tomorrow.
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Old 18th March 2016, 08:53 AM
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Salut Igor,
Bravo pour ce super boulot et ton sens de l'organisation inégalable !
Ca fait plaisir de voir que l'auto malgré les années à l'air très saine...
On peut vraiment parler d'une bonne base de restauration.
Je suis très impressionné par les cales maison !!
On à hâte de voir la suite du programme
Désolé de parler en français but my english is so bad
Bonsoir à tous nos amis australien depuis Paris et merci pour ce super forum
Best regards
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Old 18th March 2016, 11:21 AM
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No Problem Philippe, we have a couple of French speakers here including my good Wife. But we don't understand "Cale" A miss print perhaps ?

Meilleurs Voeux

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Je suis très impressionné par les cales maison !!

Désolé de parler en français but my english is so bad

Bonsoir à tous nos amis australien depuis Paris et merci pour ce super forum
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Bonjour Philippe et bienvenu sur notre petit Forum.
Je suis un des rares Francophones ici, donc pas de probleme pour expliquer et traduire.

Sean,

Cales (plural) normally means chocks (for stopping brakeless cars from moving), however in this instance I believe Philippe means the wooden 'blocks' that Igor had made for the suspension.

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Old 18th March 2016, 04:32 PM
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Hello Craig,
I am a bit late for the answer, sorry about that.
yeah this pistons sets are really impressive and looks Top.
As Styria says the engine that feet that w109 016 mid 1969 year is the M130 2.8l, the same one that feet the 280SL "PAGODE" if i am not wrong.
Where did you order these custom made pieces of Art ?
Regards
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1969 911 2.0l coupe
1979 911 3.0l targa
1963 V.W type 34 1500cc coupe "razor hedge"
1979 V.W kombi "westfalia" 1600cc
1975 Citroen DS 23 ie Pallas
1979 Toyota L.C FJ55 "iron pig" 6cyl.
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Old 18th March 2016, 04:44 PM
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Actually, i order those wooden blocks (cales) from our mate Jérôme that is good at doing that sort of emergency engineering solutions.
He is our genius out here.

jerome-paillet.fr/design/
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1979 911 3.0l targa
1963 V.W type 34 1500cc coupe "razor hedge"
1979 V.W kombi "westfalia" 1600cc
1975 Citroen DS 23 ie Pallas
1979 Toyota L.C FJ55 "iron pig" 6cyl.

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