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Old 24th April 2019, 09:27 PM
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I think you are spot on there Motec
Most Jag owners think this way
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Old 24th April 2019, 09:45 PM
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Hey they invented some lovely features like Automatic oil changes . Never had to worry about them as oil was never in the engine long enough to have to change it. I had a old Ducati 900SD years ago . it was similar . It also had Window operating system years before Microsoft. Worthless In Night Day Or Water .
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My experience has been good with leaks and mechanical issues. Actually the Jag is far less leaky than other cars I have.

The main issues i've had pertain to somewhat sensitive electrics and the early dunlop disc brakes.

The electrics are a striking contrast to a mercedes of the same era.
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How does a 6.9 (or even a 450) even breathe through this thing??? Itís now been proven the stock air filter housing restricts flow into the air flow meter. And thatís just the start!


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These guys are doing some interesting stuff on a 560 ATM:

http://www.carobu.com/
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These guys are doing some interesting stuff on a 560 ATM:

http://www.carobu.com/
See this thread:
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Damn I forgot about that thread sorry! At least it now ties it all together!!
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I was prepared to persevere with K(E) Jet with the help of Dkubus, but the size of the mechanicals leaves stuff all room for the most important factor being air flow. You can do what you like to other aspects of these engines but until you address this issue any performance upgrades will result in minimal gains per dollar spent.
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Will see what I can come up with on my car soon I'm hoping. Coming to an end my legal dealings over car accident.
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My fabricators at the ready awaiting final mock up. ⏰
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How does a 6.9 (or even a 450) even breathe through this thing??? Itís now been proven the stock air filter housing restricts flow into the air flow meter. And thatís just the start!
At least on the 560, the carbou guys seem to think the intake and air flow meter was the main restriction point and the air filter was fine. the 560 is dual snorkel though.

I suspect if you open up the intake/air metering then the air filter unit starts to become more of a problem.
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They found the bulge to clear the fuel divider was restricting flow along with the lack of headroom into the air flap. However the restrictions arenít as much as the 180deg turn at the bottom of the plenum.
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Old 25th June 2019, 06:49 PM
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The air filter design loss is as much as 10hp!!
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I will be fitting the 85mm throttle body and FrankenCIS to my 6.9 once I get it back. I may see about adding volume to the plenum plus thanks to Michel I have a 560 Air cleaner .
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I love the machine work on those TBs Geoff!
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