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Old 21st June 2019, 06:00 PM
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And yes I know the early Automatic were built like Railway Engines.
The GM Turbo 400 was the later alloy version of the earlier Cast Iron Hydramatic which were Fitted to early R/ R and Bentley and plenty of the Yank Tanks, including the Ford Lincolns. in the forties and Fifties. The Alloy T 400s were ok in the low revving American Cars but a bit of a disaster behind the high revving Jaguar V12s. down the Motorways in the UK.
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Old 21st June 2019, 06:05 PM
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Yes Brian the 2000 had the light weight BW 35 which also fell to pieces .. usually the forward Drive ( front Clutches )
2000TC manual.
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Old 21st June 2019, 10:37 PM
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... I have to wonder why anyone would bother with the P5 3500 as a driving car. Yes; gorgeous and nicely kitted out and solidly built but lacking the light and nimble feel of the 2000TC. ...
Still, if you want to look like a British backbencher, any P5 will help you achieve that goal.
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I do like the backbencher comment. Brings to mind a Tory backbencher of the 60s with his bowler hat and moustache.

The fictitious Jim Hacker MP had to live with an Austin Princess!
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Old 22nd June 2019, 09:50 AM
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I lived with an AUSTIN MAXI in the UK for 15 months. I thought it was quite OK !
It was able to keep up very well, way back in 1971, on the European autobahns.
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Old 22nd June 2019, 02:27 PM
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I had to look that up.
I think we had them here as an Austin Kimberly.
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Old 22nd June 2019, 02:56 PM
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Manual Rover 2000..... I stayed away from all Manual G/Boxes in my Automatic only Workshop. Burnt Clutches and damaged G/Boxes claiming Warranty by incompetent Drivers ! The Clutch Pedal is a Foot Rest >
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Old 22nd June 2019, 05:44 PM
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Just another experience with Jaguar XJS Automatics.. Even in 100KPH Australia the T 400s gave trouble .. we always found the the earlier fitting of Cast Iron BW12 was a better Transmission in these cars. We fitted a front Band from an American Rambler to stop the sliding shift to the 1-2 upshift. The original Band material was to hard which had a lower coefficient of Friction.
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Old 24th June 2019, 09:06 AM
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I think Styria’s ears are burning!!!
I do like the backbencher comment. Brings to mind a Tory backbencher of the 60s with his bowler hat and moustache.

The fictitious Jim Hacker MP had to live with an Austin Princess!
Would you believe that my lengthy reply has gotten lost because the system logged me out. Will have to come back to this. Regards. Styria
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Old 27th June 2019, 04:44 PM
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I am not certain which model Benz Boy refers to. He mentions P5 3500 so I presume that he refers to the car normally known as the P5B, the car with the V8 engine introduced to the large bodied P5 that had been current in various guises with the six cylinder engine introduced in 1959, and ending in 1968. I think Benz Boy's assessment of the handling/roadholding/cornering refers to the 3.5 litre V8 model. If the truth be known, and I have expressed this on a number of occasions, British Leyland only scratched the surface of these P5Bs by way of technical developments and improvements. Front suspension unchanged resulting in a much stiffer ride and less re-assuring in cornering, the BW 35 was no match for the car's weight and power etc. etc.

However, come to think of it, the Rolls Royce Silver Shadow Mark I also handled like a dog's breakfast, and would behave like a drunken sailor bobbing in the Australian Bight the moment it would encounter a round about. I know, because I did drive one on a number of occasions. Come to think of it, a Rolls Royce Silver Cloud III would outhandle the Shadow I under any condition which I was able to experience over a period of some nine months.

The Rover 2000/2000TC - I wouldn't mind discussing that model in another thread. I know enough about them, ranging from the engine and gearboxes, to the front and rear suspension, very familiar with some of the mechanical foibles, various performance and handling quirks plus, whichever of the P6 range, would be the most desirable. Question I ask of Benz Boy - has he driven many 2000s (single and TC), 3500 and 3500S, as well as any of the 2200 models. Let's open up the topic. Regards Styria

N.B. I wonder what changed Benz Boy's mind. Interesting.

http://www.topklasse.net.au/forums/n...wreply&p=45856

N.B. I couldn't help but throwing in this video of my favourite Rolls Royce - bar one. (psssst.......the Bentley Continental S3)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpfYH93e8h8

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Old 27th June 2019, 04:53 PM
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You and your Rovers Styria are almost but not quite as bad as my friend Stoo in Coffs he has a Jensen Affliction has 3 and one is FF . But then he does work for Shannon's
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Old 27th June 2019, 05:03 PM
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Hi Geoff, I am a Rover and Mercedes 6.9 tragic - can't get away from that. Your buddy Stoo - I am jealous - he probably got all of his at the right price.Regards Styria
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Old 27th June 2019, 06:33 PM
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Most likely first interceptor he bought late 80's still has it
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In brief, having had extensive driving of an original and well-preserved 2000TC manual, I am delighted by the handling and response. So much so that I have to review my attraction to a P5 3500.
More later, connectivity is slow at 30,000 feet.
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Old 28th June 2019, 01:58 PM
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In brief, having had extensive driving of an original and well-preserved 2000TC manual, I am delighted by the handling and response. So much so that I have to review my attraction to a P5 3500.
More later, connectivity is slow at 30,000 feet.
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I find the best P6 model a conundrum - the P3500S has the best spec, but I feel the earlier cars are far better. Better built, better looking, nicer interiors etc.

In some ways for a very early 3500 with a 5 speed transmission swap out of a rover SD1 may be the ideal P6.
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Old 28th June 2019, 03:12 PM
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Hi Brian, I wish you'd call it by its appropriate model designation, i.e. P5B 3.5 litre. It's perhaps an anomaly, but it would save any possible misunderstanding by those that are not familiar with the cars. There is no such model as a P5 3500. Best Regards, Styria

......and I will elaborate further on the P6 range in due course. I do have an opinion as well, having owned various 3500/3500S/2000SC/2000TC and 2200 Automatic with, for that car, the excellent BW35 transmission.
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