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Old 18th July 2015, 07:28 PM
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How close is Cadillac in particular, and General Motors in general, to the established Germans ? The styling, of course, is an individual preference, whilst the interior probably would not stand up to the best that other "Super" Saloons are able to offer. However, from a dynamical point of view, the Cadillac runs the Germans very close. I am not sure how the price compares with that of the Europeans, but dare I say that this Cadillac represents excellent value ? You be the judge. Maybe also, this is an example of what we can expect in Australia once Holden closes its manufacturing doors. Regards Styria

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How close is Cadillac in particular, and General Motors in general, to the established Germans ? The styling, of course, is an individual preference, whilst the interior probably would not stand up to the best that other "Super" Saloons are able to offer. However, from a dynamical point of view, the Cadillac runs the Germans very close. I am not sure how the price compares with that of the Europeans, but dare I say that this Cadillac represents excellent value ? You be the judge. Maybe also, this is an example of what we can expect in Australia once Holden closes its manufacturing doors. Regards Styria

http://www.windingroad.com/articles/...eid=418b371abb
If Cadillac is ever going to return as a prestige marque then someone needs to keelhaul the interior decorator - it doesn't look so much different from a bread and butter Buick ....
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Impressive on paper and throughout the video clips.
One must not forget the price difference between a Cadillac and is German opponents.
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Impressive on paper and throughout the video clips.
One must not forget the price difference between a Cadillac and is German opponents.
According the Cadillac website approx. $US60,000 to $US88,000.
My issue is that Cadillacs of old were known for styling; these will never be so known unless a brick on steroids becomes fashionable ....
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According the Cadillac website approx. $US60,000 to $US88,000.
My issue is that Cadillacs of old were known for styling; these will never be so known unless a brick on steroids becomes fashionable ....
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In terms of styling: as long as car manufacturers use wind tunnel computer modelling, we will continue to have bland looking cars that we eventually accept but are hard on the eyes to start with.
Mass production cars (those that car companies need to sell hundreds of thousands to make money) will suffer from the need to save on fuel consumption, which mean every millimetre is required to drop the wind drag on the vehicle, hence some very boring looking cars.
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Hmmmm, Michel, hmmmmmmmmmmm - I'll think about that but as my good friend Confucius said to me over a Single Malt recently; "A brick is a brick."
Very deep that man.
Then he pulled out some pictures - go and have a look at this brick; http://www.cadillac.com/escalade-suv.html
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