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Andrew280SEL
26th November 2008, 06:50 PM
I present the 7th W116 to join our fleet...... :D

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Just brought her over this morning on the Spirit of Tasmania, from Melbourne. :)

1979 450SEL 6.9.
My dad and I bought it together, almost like an early Christmas present for each other ;)
We got it here, washed it (which is why the pics are all over the place as I was taking them as we were moving the vehicle around) then after checking things, quickly shoved it in the shed to keep away from those pesky cats who happen to like climbing on cars :mad:
Unfortunately that meant pulling my 280SEL out of the shed to make way for the 6.9, which means my 280 will have to endure the weather until the other shed gets built :rolleyes: However it's a painful necessity.

The car is great in pretty much every area, EXCEPT, unfortunately, the suspension isn't right... which we knew about when buying, it seems to be a leak of hydraulic oil somewhere near the hydropneumatic oil reservoir. The hydro oil is low, however the hydropneumatic warning light hasn't come on (probably doesn't work) and you may or may not notice in the pics it's sitting VERY low (looks cool too). Somehow the tires don't rub, but it's certainly too low for our pothole filled gravel driveway. It seems ok on the road, except because of the problem it tends to "bounce", if that makes sense. Hopefully won't be too much of an expensive fix.

The rest of the car's mechanics are, well, amazing to sit behind and drive. It feels like a new car (except for the suspension of course). Steering is tight and lovely, starts first time every time, doesn't blow any smoke, superb oil pressure, brakes are great etc. Power is obviously amazing. The paint except too minor spots (boot scratch from some punk kid, apparently, and left hand door lower side mark probably just from a flying pebble) is pretty much immaculate.

Reason being is it's had at least $35000 spent on it back in '95 for a full rebuild; we even have the quote papers listing all the parts and labour amonsgt the log books.
So it's no secret that it's not 100% "every single rubber from '79" originality, but when it drives like it does who am I to complain ;)

I was going to detail more, but I have to go to dinner right now. I'll be back, but if someone might be able to tell me how I can find out the "production number" of the car in the meantime it would be much appreciated :)

GreaseMonkey
26th November 2008, 06:55 PM
OK, now I AM getting jealous!
C.M.

HansKruger
26th November 2008, 07:05 PM
nice looking car

That trick suspension will drive you mad keeping it right.

Michel
26th November 2008, 07:48 PM
Oh Andrew, it's great news that this car ended up with you guys.
It has a god home

Congratulations..

Now Des will come and visit..:D

Andrew280SEL
26th November 2008, 08:01 PM
Thanks Michel, yes Des is welcome anytime..speaking of which, where is he....

BTW though, this is not the Milan Brown 6.9 recently shown here and on the .ORG on Ebay for $25000 or how ever much it was... this particular car was, interestingly, about half that price. In fact, we were lucky to discover it and pay the first deposit, because apparently someone rang up the now previous owner and offered him about $25k cash on pick up :eek:
The PO, quite a wealthy man in any case, was gracious enough to decline, and declare it was already committed to us....

I'm surprised this car didn't appear on these forums....unless I missed them or something.

EDIT: Actually might be because it was on CarPoint and not Ebay I suppose ;)

Des
26th November 2008, 08:03 PM
A non cracked dash 6.9?

That has to be rare,

looks a good car Sir!

BenzBoy
26th November 2008, 08:06 PM
Well done Andrew. :D I am so pleased you have a 6.9 - you will have enormous fun and I truly hope it returns the attention you give it by behaving like a good 6.9 should. :D:D:D Life is far too short to settle for anything less than 7 w116s. Good on you.
Regards,
BenzBoy

Andrew280SEL
26th November 2008, 08:06 PM
Oh there he is...:D

Yes, I was surprised about the dash too. Quite a protected life it's had I guess, but still with the mileage it has you'd think the dash would still have seen it's fair share of the Aussie sun.

HansKruger
26th November 2008, 08:18 PM
get adash mat and have some backing added fir protection.

Michel
26th November 2008, 11:57 PM
Thanks Michel,
BTW though, this is not the Milan Brown 6.9 recently shown here and on the .ORG on Ebay for $25000 or how ever much it was... this particular car was, interestingly, about half that price.
EDIT: Actually might be because it was on CarPoint and not Ebay I suppose ;)

I simply recognised the distinct number plates.
It has been for sale, on and off, for a while

oscar
27th November 2008, 12:55 AM
Andrew!!!!!!!!!
GTF outta here!!! as Axel Foley would say:D You sly dawg.
We got Des' 6.9 back to the mainland but now you've tipped the ledger by taking one off us. ;) Congratulations!!!!!!!!

FWIW I think you've got the most roadworthy, registered or not, w116's.

You know I was only looking at PHD600 the other day and amazed how much the price had dropped. I remember seeing it at $18k some time ago and it might have been higher but it's steadily been dropping to about $11something. I kept thinking that it was a good buy whilst knowing the suspension was in need of attention.

But I'm really happy for you and your dad and slightly envious at the same time. Congrats once again:cool:

Styria
27th November 2008, 03:00 AM
Hi Andrew, that's certainly a very nice looking and well cared for car. Milan Brown and Orange Bamboo are a nice combination.

It'll be interesting to see who will get the lion's share of the driving - you or Dad ? Don't forget what Mercules once said - the 6.9 is an old man's Subaru WRX !

The money you paid, for a good example, was not excessive - it begs the question, and I am digressing, that my Astral Silver 6.9 advertised on topklasse, is probably too cheap at $6600.00........Regards Styria


N. B. Good luck with the car.

Anthony 350 sl
27th November 2008, 09:04 AM
Congratulations..very nice looking car

get adash mat and have some backing added fir protection.

Where can you get one of these thay are a good fit?

116Benz
27th November 2008, 09:39 AM
Andrew, Congrats what a car! all you need now is RONIN plates. A nice addition to your 116 family.

Andrew280SEL
27th November 2008, 11:44 AM
We got Des' 6.9 back to the mainland but now you've tipped the ledger by taking one off us. ;) Congratulations!!!!!!!!

FWIW I think you've got the most roadworthy, registered or not, w116's.


Haha :D

True, I'm not sure how many 6.9's there are in Tassie... I'd imagine very few and I remember thinking Des' car might have been one of the only 6.9's in the state before it went off to 13B/Ian. I've certainly never seen one before, in fact this is the first 6.9 I've ever seen/driven/touched ;)
Doesn't mean there aren't any down here, but I certainly have never seen one.

As for the roadworthy collection of W116's, I'd say your pretty right. 6 out of the 7 W116's are capable roadgoing cars, while the non-going car is the yellow 450SE parts car which has been stripped of certain parts and doesn't go anyway. The red 280SE will be stripped for the track however, so that will leave 5 roadgoing W116's :cool:


It'll be interesting to see who will get the lion's share of the driving - you or Dad ? Don't forget what Mercules once said - the 6.9 is an old man's Subaru WRX !



:D

Well, it's a good question. After the suspension issue is sorted, we will find out ;)


Also, how does one find out the "production number" of their car? I was looking at the compliance plates and what not and I thought I found a number "5360" but figured it can't be right because, the car is a 1979 model and I would've thought it would be around the 7xxx range, but I could be wrong.

TJ 450
27th November 2008, 01:37 PM
The production number is the last few digits of the chassis nr. For example, mine is 116036 22 001432, where 1432 is the nr. You will see it stamped into the firewall in the centre as on all W116's.

Also, the date on the compliance plate doesn't always correspond with the build date, on my car it is 1-78 even though the car was built in 1976.

Tim

B13
27th November 2008, 02:06 PM
I was looking at the compliance plates and what not and I thought I found a number "5360" but figured it can't be right because, the car is a 1979 model and I would've thought it would be around the 7xxx range, but I could be wrong.

If the production figures are to be believed, and I have no reason to doubt them, then I would make yours a very late 1978 model.

Reason being: them made 7380 cars all up
In 1980 they made 129 of them (cars 7251 to 7380)
In 1979 they made 1839 of them (cars 5412 to 7250)
In 1978 they made 1665 of them (cars 3747 to 5411)
which numerically puts your car at the tail end of 1978.

However, it has to spend some time on a ship on the high seas on its way to Australia so I have no doubt it was 1979 by the time your car arrived here and was dealer prepped and registered.

Ian.

Andrew280SEL
27th November 2008, 02:12 PM
Wow, ok thanks guys. Well after properly checking the chassis number (on the registration form, hopefully it's correct...car is in the shed ATM) the car is #5190 :cool:

Des
27th November 2008, 03:13 PM
Haha :D

True, I'm not sure how many 6.9's there are in Tassie... I'd imagine very few and I remember thinking Des' car might have been one of the only 6.9's in the state before it went off to 13B/Ian. I've certainly never seen one before, in fact this is the first 6.9 I've ever seen/driven/touched ;)
Doesn't mean there aren't any down here, but I certainly have never seen one.

I know of 4 other 6.9's in Tassie
another green one like mine, a metallic blue UK import, a gold rusty UK import and a white 6.9


I doubt there would be many more,

Lukas
27th November 2008, 05:19 PM
Congrats Andrew (& father of) - they are great cars to blast around in, and like many others here have said, once you get the suspension sorted you can really put the boot in - the car goes better for it, and you will be happy too.

Another thing you have yet to experience is the feeling of driving around in one with good suspension - described by someone here as the 6.9 magic carpet ride.

Maybe we should form some kind of Topklasse garage building consortium - I need one too, and others have cited lack of covered parking as the reason for not having more cars.....

Is there anything special in the option codes?

Lukas

-bb-
27th November 2008, 05:38 PM
Well done. Looks like a very nice car and it is very nice to see another Topklasse member with a Milan Brown 6.9 :cool:

Mine is number 4965 and the compliance date is 11/78, so yours being dated 1979 would be correct.

s class
28th November 2008, 03:52 AM
Eesh thats a damn nice car. Very well done. My favourite colour combo. Pleeeease keep it out of the sun and protect that awesome dash and interior.

Andrew280SEL
28th November 2008, 03:30 PM
Hi Ryan,

Don't worry, this thing will live in the shed covered up when not in use ;)

That's where my 280SEL WAS living, but uh, she got the boot for the new 6.9.... Thankfully there's another shed being built so the 280 won't be exposed excessively for long.

Now, as for the option codes, I'll have to give them a big look over and see if I find anything of interest. I know that it's a fully optioned car (everything works too, even the "cruise control"), by visual analysis, but who knows what I might find.

GreaseMonkey
28th November 2008, 08:08 PM
[QUOTE=Andrew280SEL;13202] (everything works too, even the "cruise control")QUOTE]

Bl**dy Hell, really?
C.M.

Andrew280SEL
29th November 2008, 12:55 AM
Well yes, surprisingly ;)

I know they (the cruise control) tend to...well not work after all these years. Whether it stays at it's set speed consistently without randomly dropping out remains to be seen... my 280SEL cruise control for instance, works, but tends to suddenly "drop out" then start gaining speed again until it reaches the set speed.

SELfor50
9th December 2008, 04:14 AM
F$K man, just saw this!!!

Great work! Looks like a very nice car indeed... 7 x 116's??? We might have to invade Tasmania soon lad's. Hahah...

Great work mate, you might have change your login to Andrew450SEL6.9 ;)

Look forward to seeing progress on the suspension and loving touches you give the car.

Cam. :)

Admin
9th December 2008, 06:22 AM
So Andrew, how's the 7th wonder coming along - I won't ask you, as I am sure you'd still be happy having purchased the car (especially in such nice condition), but have you yet sorted the suspension and is it running okay in other respects as well?

Believe me, the longer you have the car for, the better you will like it. You just have to watch expenses a bit - costs can get away quickly. I try and spread my expenses as much as I can - it does cost me money as well to maintain Gleaming Beauty (don't forget), but slogging away like I did, and with the considerable help of Mercules, on the headwork carried out recently, saved me quite a bit of bacon, believe me. A couple of years ago, I had some gearbox work carried out on a W109 300SE and for a day's work, it cost me $860.00. Anyway, I am digressing - hoping you're still happy with your purchase. Regards Styria

Styria
9th December 2008, 06:38 AM
Hi Andrew, sorry admin. got involved for no reason at all. Everything written is meant to be.:D Regards Styria

Michel
9th December 2008, 06:50 AM
Honestly Godfather, you have too many hats:D
Hi Andrew, sorry admin. got involved for no reason at all. Everything written is meant to be.:D Regards Styria

Andrew280SEL
30th March 2009, 03:36 PM
So Andrew, how's the 7th wonder coming along - I won't ask you, as I am sure you'd still be happy having purchased the car (especially in such nice condition), but have you yet sorted the suspension and is it running okay in other respects as well?



OK, sorry for the EXTREMELY late reply (:o) but I've been away again and haven't had much time to do anything W116 related except drive them.
However recently things are less busy and now I've had to start working on my 350SE I'm getting right back into it all again.

As for the 6.9, unfortunately we haven't sorted out the suspension properly yet, however we are fairly certain it needs new cells in the front. Could be costly I understand, but shouldn't be a problem. It doesn't appear to lose much hydro fluid, but it does lose some. Besides that the car rises everytime it's started, as it sinks over time obviously, but it rises fine so that's good.
You can drive it, but you have to be really careful near any bumps or sudden (even small) changes in terrain or the front of the car will "bounce".

As such, it (the car) gets small drives now and then to keep everything nice and lubricated but obviously with this suspension ATM you can't give it proper Italian tune-ups ;)
It's ok to cruise on the flat highway, but that's it really.

Bad suspension aside, the car is wonderful. It runs great, response and power is fantastic and it has a much smoother idle than the other W116's here. But they haven't had the same treatment this car has had in the past (i.e rebuilt engine parts etc).

I wouldn't be exaggerating by saying that the slightest increased pressure on the throttle and suddenly you notice it leaves most cars behind you for dead ;)
The sheer effortless-ness and rapid yet, easy acceleration is amazing. The fact it's a '70s saloon makes it more so :D

Which makes the suspension even more of a shame ATM as it's a bit of a killjoy :cool:

But that will come in due time. For now, the 350 awaits as I try to get fuel flowing from the petrol tank (damn filter...) :rolleyes:

EDIT: Also, forgot to add that fuel consumption on the 6.9 is surprisingly good.

Styria
30th March 2009, 04:13 PM
Hi Andrew 116, you must have known that a PM has been coming your way for probably about three weeks at least - yeah, I think even longer than that. So I say to you "great minds think alike. fools never differ" and indeed it is nice to hear from you.

SOLID air pressure cells will not stop the car from being pumped up and, that of course, is only part of the story. Changing the Air Pressure Cells will make a huge difference - in fact, from being virtually undriveable, you can experience the "magic carpet" ride.

Changing your fifth pressure cell (the one with the switch fitted - under the l.h. front guard, will also stop the car from dropping overnight. The car relies on that cell to maintain pressure in the system when it is not being used, or parked for that matter.

Anyway, keep us updated if you feel comfortable in doing so. Regards Styria

BenzBoy
30th March 2009, 05:30 PM
It's good to have you back onboard Andrew. :D
Regards,
Benz-Boy

Michel
30th March 2009, 06:17 PM
Great to hear from you again Andrew..

Also tell us what you are doing?
Work? Uni? TAFE?

SEL_69L
30th March 2009, 06:32 PM
So far as the Australian population of 6.9's is concerned, here is some interesting facts I gleaned from various sources when I acquired my 6.9 back in May 2000: The RTA (NSW) at that time said that there were 38 6.9's in current registration. I remember that exact number. This next fact (from memory, I think is about 90% correct). I rang MB Aust. to ask them how many were imported. The number was around 280. This second fact can be confirmed with accuracy, if anyone wishes to ring MB Aust in Melbourne; they should be able to give you the total number imported, and the breakup per year. These cars would be all Australian complied. With grey imports since that time, the total of ALL imports into Australia I feel would be near to 400.
The survival rate of this long lived car to the year 2009 I feel should be around the 100 mark for Australia, with perhaps 20 - 25 based in Sydney. The survival rate of 6.9's as a proportion of the W116 population I feel would increase in the next decade.

Andrew280SEL
31st March 2009, 04:20 PM
Great to hear from you again Andrew..

Also tell us what you are doing?
Work? Uni? TAFE?

Hi Michel, I'm working at the moment on a farm in my area.
I was doing year 11 and 12, however I finished year 12 late last year. Before that I was doing an agricultural apprenticeship and courses with TAFE, which kept me busy, but I then moved onto finish off college. All this and part time work meant I've been quite busy.
The last couple of months have just been mainly work itself, but I've also been helping around home to convert what was once a big shearing shed into a car workshop and storage, which means more protection and work space for the Mercs ;)
Also meant I could take out the old Chrysler Valiant out of one of the normal garages meaning my 280SEL once again gets a proper living space away from the whether, since the 6.9 stole it's original one...

In short I haven't so much been doing things with the W116's, but rather doing tasks that help with maintenence and protection for them. Gee do I sound obsessed :rolleyes: :cool:

The survival rate of this long lived car to the year 2009 I feel should be around the 100 mark for Australia, with perhaps 20 - 25 based in Sydney. The survival rate of 6.9's as a proportion of the W116 population I feel would increase in the next decade.

Nice info, thanks. That's probably less than I expected actually, and I agree about the survival rate. I've seen quite a few (as we all have I'm sure) very neglected W116's of the "lesser" breed, which is unfortunate but when they have sold for so cheap in recent times it's to be expected.
My 350SE was one such neglected car, just $800 I bought it for. Now I'm proud to say it looks and goes heaps better than when I bought it. Still a fair bit of work to go, but it's getting there.


On another note, I went to a car show on the weekend in Devonport. Just for a look around, to see what was there. Would have taken pics if I had the camera, but it wasn't to be. Anyway I eventually saw the side of a gold-ish W116 (the only W116 I saw there) in between various rows of classic cars, and I thought to myself, "I bet that's a 6.9!"

Then I got to the back of it...and it was a 280SE :D
Meanwhile a certain Victorian-turned-Taswegian Milan Brown 6.9 sat in a car park outside the show entrance :o